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Monday, January 28, 2013

Please check on the net by typing anything like ‘age of aisha, mohammed, islam’ and you will see that pedophilic enforced torture way of life is a grande classic of muslim literature.

Aisha, "married" to the "prophet" Mohammed, "consumption" "marriage" on her ninth year.

In preaching Islam, some back the live of ‘their’ spokesperson or representative, preaching worse than imaginable, but children married to adult and old men. pre---aching more than paedophilia but act of torture that ought to be punished by severe stay in prison in this world all beyond rotten and  moribund. It is happening in schools, and all this starting (being official) in the U.K.

 

Please check on the net by typing anything like ‘age of aisha, mohammed,  islam’ and you will see that paedophilic enforced torture way of life is a grande classic of muslim literature.

Ps: It is not of any unbiased thesis that paedophiliac attitude is more east-centred. as for proof how on earth come that a very little proportion of the population is not aware of this, though screwed to their journals and TV.
Because of a culture that is incestuous and sexist, and slavist in the west as much. and how many of men and women, white if spare when the coming back of Malthus, are longing to be lingering near harems, brothels or others. Or at home, just like the under coverage of sexual exploitation within ‘job positions’ and ‘family’, ‘enforced prostitution via unemployment running and citizenship payday (pederast) is an help at supporting innocent and ingénue disarmament,  for the strengthening of all perversity.
With the west helping depravity, as more anxious to satisfy their control and detainment or denouncement sexual and sentimental over homosexuality, than stopping job for lust and the shortage of opportunity.
Just like purist, polishing their lines of toleration, hiding by any means, that puritans were just that much decadent.
Talking virginity deforming up to their own virtuosity.
West con-sensus, census.
Sense common to the coerced, imprisoned by nothing less than censorship that will leave us senseless, ready to eat and seasoned.
Aisha.
In other countries you cannot fight it.
In the uk they call the veil your liberty.
As if every one agrees.
The gangrene is our blame.
Why do you cover, of what are you ah ashame.
Gr
In here the carpet that produce you baby.
Is called cultural diversity.
Thank you for the law, the royal.
For you the polygamous is cheap labor
That would appease your rancour.
Asiah.
You can thank the whitey
For them your being sold is plurality
They say you will, mary.
The day you reach puberty.
Domains of pedophily,
Homos are feared and threatened.
Since you don’t or you do know aunty.
Ahisa
What is your shame.
But to have to be humiliate
By pedo in rayban glasses
And call it humility
Ahisa
What s the whole threat.
Unemployment, domestic ex plea.
What is if you rebel
You lose families?
Don’t worry
This is the world story.
Sia
How not think of reveange
When your sex could be the exchange
Thank you to the uk
Where the women rights won’t curtail
Where the burkha is a good curtain
Since the world could cult transform itself
Of one of macho
Miserable pussies
Waiting for slaves and harem
Like the white also are awaiting discretely
Thank the uk where servants are the ones who get the permit.
And now how could they not play the prick
Like if you were the choosers
Elsewhere you d stone
Me.
I ike
Hike
The beggars, boggers, baggers, bed, bad,
Take arms.

Thursday, December 22, 2011

AISHA, the fourth ‘wife’ of Mohammad, the Islamic prophet, she was a 9 year-old human being.

AISHA, the fourth ‘wife’ of Mohammad, the Islamic prophet, she was a 9 year-old human.


mohammed, the islamic prophet married@ a child.

Wife? Thief of filth





Also don’t think that this is just a link, it is in what has been affiliated with the called a whole ‘holy book’…

Look yourself on the net and you will see that thousands of people discuss quietly of Mohammed marriage to pedophilia- and its legality.

But surely I don’t want you to worry.





MEMO to preacher/sinner.





AISHA and is-lame-and-nic (off time) horrour.

Or honor, ore of the hour.



Just an extract of an article I don’t find relevant altogether even though it tried to display the nature of the violation. The notes on maturity and menstruation should not appear but to prove a pedophilic marriage whatever she was thought to be ready as for her mental age, “psychological preparation” and physical condition.





mohammed, the islamic prophet married@ a child.

On any other articles and sources one has to remember that we are not of an Arabic language, that we are not professional translators, and that even so the context and history could change all the translations and interpretations perspectives. What a text means is the object of thoughts and its infinity.

Try to wonder if I could not end up in prison for this really despite all the love AALL OVER that Aisha inspired to me.

No, it not true it is just that I can’t be a true, therefore a nice and funny, husby.

Hobby.



AS ALSO it could have been very easy to raise an army-waging on rapes and worse marry, that the one ended on a coarse curse cross, this one messy.

Allaall.



MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES

by Silas

NOTE

I needed to edit and correct this article because I’ve learned some new details. Initially, I believed what many Muslims asserted: Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage to the nine year old Aisha following her first menstruation. HOWEVER, after reading brother Sam Shamoun’s articles (1, 2), I realized that the Quran, the Hadith, and Muslim scholar’s writings state that a Muslim husband can engage in sex with a child-bride before she has her first menses. Further, Muhammad actually did just this – he had intercourse with Aisha prior to her first menses!

This increases the weight and scope of my argument and places Muhammad and Islam in a far darker, more disreputable, light. Many Muslims don’t know this and by their own standards Muhammad did the wrong thing in having sex with a child. Muslims have to answer for their continued support for Muhammad because he transgresses their standards. When children are allowed to be used for sex then that is sexual exploitation; so why do they support the creator and establishment of a system that entrenches the abuse and sexual exploitation of children?

I am not trying to use cheap polemics. Surely you realize that for children there are painful ramifications behind Muhammad’s action. They need to be discussed in detail and in context. It might be offensive to some but it needs to be discussed.



CONTENTS

1) INTRODUCTION

2) EVIDENCE THAT ISLAM ALLOWS CHILDREN TO ENGAGE IN SEX BEFORE MENSTRUATION

3) EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN SHE CONSUMMATED HER MARRIAGE

4) EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD HAD SEX WITH AISHA PRIOR TO HER FIRST MENSES

5) DISCUSSION

6) CONCLUSION

APPENDIX 1: DEFINITION OF THE WORD TRANSLATED AS "CONSUMMATE"

APPENDIX 2: JEWISH CULTURE AND MARRIAGE

APPENDIX 3: SCIENCE AND PUBERTY (It does not begin with menarche).

APPENDIX 4: ISLAM AND DAMAGE TO YOUNG GIRLS

APPENDIX 5: AISHA’S ACTIONS

APPENDIX 6: ABUSIVE PRACTICES IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD TODAY

APPENDIX 7: MUHAMMAD'S REASONS FOR MARRYING AISHA



1) INTRODUCTION

Picture this historical setting: A 49 year old man asks his best friend if he could have his permission to marry his 6 year old daughter. His friend agrees. The man then visits his best friend’s house and speaks with the 6 year old daughter. Her parents watch as the he proposes marriage to the child. He is serious; he wants to marry the little girl and is asking for her consent. The little child says nothing; she only stares at him in silence.

The Islamic source materials state that Muhammad proposed marriage to Aisha when she was 6. He assumed her silence constituted her consent. Some 2 to 3 years later, just after he had fled to Medina, he consummated his marriage with her. He was 52 and she was 9. This occurred prior to Aisha’s first menses and by Islam’s legal definition Aisha was still considered a child. Islam teaches that a child enters adulthood at the beginning of puberty. (This is scientifically inaccurate, the onset of puberty does not equal adulthood – see Appendix 3).

The bottom line is Muhammad, the creator of Islam, revered by his followers, had sex with a child! Worse, Muhammad's action and teachings on marriage established an Islamic precedent and Islamic law allows female children to be married off and engaged in sex provided they are able to handle a man’s penis (Quran 65:4). As will be shown, this leads to physical, and psychological, damage to the child.



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2) EVIDENCE THAT ISLAM ALLOWS CHILDREN TO ENGAGE IN SEX BEFORE MENSTRUATION

First, we need to establish that Islam allows female children to be married and engaged in sex prior to their first menses (prepubescent). For that we turn to the Islamic source materials. Starting with the Quran:

If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those who have not menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him. 65:4, Dawood

Brother Sam Shamoun comments on this verse:

The surrounding context deals with the issue of the waiting period for divorce, and remarriage. The Quran is telling Muslims to wait for a certain period of time before making the divorce final or deciding to forego it. The Quran exhorts men to wait a period of three months in the case of women who either are no longer menstruating or haven’t even started their menstrual cycles! (Source)

Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children.



Borrowing from Sam’s work (*) I quote three Islamic scholars commentary related to 65:4 and the subject of sex with prepubescent children:

Ibn Kathir writes regarding 65:4



Al-Tabari said regarding 65:4

The interpretation of the verse "And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed period), if you have doubt (about their periods), is three months; and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise". He said: The same applies to the 'idaah for girls who do not menstruate because they are too young, if their husbands divorce them after consummating the marriage with them.

Tafseer al-Tabari, 14/142 (Source: Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)

(Question #12708: Is it acceptable to marry a girl who has not yet started her menses?)

Regarding sex with prepubescent children, Abu-Ala’ Maududi states:

"Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl at this age but it is permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible." (Maududi, volume 5, p. 620, note 13, emphasis added)

It is clear: Muslim men can engage in sex with prepubescent children!



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3) EVIDENCE THAT AISHA WAS 9 WHEN SHE CONSUMMATED HER MARRIAGE

Now that we’ve established that Islam allows husbands to engage in sex with their child-brides, let’s move on to Muhammad and Aisha. The Islamic source materials state that Aisha was 9 when they consummated their marriage.

From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Bukhari vol. 7, #65:

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

From the hadith of Muslim, volume 2, #3309

Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine….

From the hadith of the Sunan of Abu Dawud, volume 2, #2116

"Aisha said, "The Apostle of Allah married me when I was seven years old." (The narrator Sulaiman said: "Or six years."). "He had intercourse with me when I was 9 years old."

From "The History of Tabari", volume 9, page 131

"Then the men and women got up and left. The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. Neither a camel nor a sheep was slaughtered on behalf of me"...(The Prophet) married her three years before the Emigration, when she was seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine years old, after he had emigrated to Medina in Shawwal. She was eighteen years old when he died.

From the Encyclopedia of Islam, under "Aisha":

"Some time after the death of Khadija, Khawla suggested to Muhammad that he should marry either Aisha, the 6 year old daughter of his chief follower, or Sawda Zama, a widow of about 30, who had gone as a Muslim to Abyssinia and whose husband had died there. Muhammad is said to have asked her to arrange for him to marry both. It had already been agreed that Aisha should marry Djubayr Mutim, whose father, though still pagan, was friendly to the Muslims. By common consent, however, this agreement was set aside, and Muhammad was betrothed to Aisha... The marriage was not consummated until some months after the Hidjra, (in April 623, 624). Aisha went to live in an apartment in Muhammad's house, later the mosque of Median. She cannot have been more than ten years old at the time and took her toys to her new home."



SUMMARY OF THE EVIDENCE OF AISHA'S AGE

The above references are just a sample of the Islamic source material statements that Aisha was 9 when her marriage was consummated. Over and over again the great Islamic scholars state that Aisha was 9 when her marriage was consummated. No serious Muslim scholar doubts this. Generally it is only embarrassed Muslims living in the West who challenge her age. For a more in-depth presentation of the evidence of Aisha’s age being 9, see Sam’s article here.



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4) EVIDENCE THAT MUHAMMAD HAD SEX WITH AISHA PRIOR TO HER FIRST MENSES

We’ve seen that Islamic doctrine allows for prepubescent children to be engaged in intercourse, and that Aisha was 9 when Muhammad had sex with her for the first time. Now we’ll look at the evidence and see that Aisha was prepubescent when Muhammad had sex with her.

The hadith state that Aisha was taken to Muhammad’s house, as his bride, when she was 9 and she took her dolls with her as play toys. I’ll borrow some excerpts from Sam’s article here:

'A'isha reported that Allah's Apostle married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house AS A BRIDE WHEN SHE WAS NINE, AND HER DOLLS WERE WITH HER; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)

'A'isha reported that she used to PLAY WITH DOLLS in the presence of Allah's Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah's Messenger whereas Allah's Messenger sent them to her. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981)

When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.

He asked: What is this? She replied: My dolls. Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: What is this I see among them? She replied: A horse. He asked: What is this that it has on it? She replied: Two wings. He asked: A horse with two wings? She replied: Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings? She said: Thereupon the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914)



A Muslim scholar says that it is okay for Aisha (and other children) to play with dolls because they are not considered adults:

Al-Khattaabee said: From this Hadeeth it is understood that playing with dolls (al-banaat) is not like the amusement from other images (suwar) concerning which the threat (wa'eed) of punishment is mentioned. The only reason why permission in this was given to 'Aa'isha (may Allah be pleased with her) is because SHE HAD NOT, AT THAT TIME, REACHED THE AGE OF PUBERTY. (Source)



Examining the evidence from the previous sections we see

1. Islam allows sex with prepubescent children who are married

2. Aisha was playing with dolls after she consummated her marriage with Muhammad

3. Under Islam’s rules, female children were allowed to play with dolls because they had not yet entered puberty, i.e. had their first menses and became adults.



Therefore, the only conclusion that can be made is that Muhammad was having sex with a Aisha while still was a child! The Quran allows this, Muhammad did this, Aisha stated this, and the scholars affirm this. Now Islam’s children have to deal with this.







MUHAMMAD AND THE FEMALE CAPTIVES

by Silas



INTRODUCTION



Muhammad and his followers fought many battles. Some were offensive some were defensive. Following a victory the Muslims would take captives, or prisoners of war. Muhammad would usually distribute the captives, both male and female, as slaves to his soldiers. Islam provides some basic rights to its slaves but these rights are limited. Naturally, the rights or demands of the slave owner were greater than those of the slaves.



Female slaves were used for primarily for work. But they also provided another service to their male masters ....







The material I present is detailed but it needs to be provided to document support from all Islamic sources.



Here is the source material I use.



1) The Quran - N.J. Dawood's translation.

2) The Hadith collection of Bukhari. This collection of stories / traditions is the second most important set of books in Islam. It follows the Quran.

3) The Hadith collection of Muslim, (third most important set of writings).

4) The Hadith collection of Abu Dawud.

5) The biography of Muhammad, known as "Sirat Rasulallah", written by Ibn Ishaq, and translated by A. Guillaume as "The Life of Muhammad", (the most authentic biography of Muhammad’s life).

6) The biographical material found in Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes). This was translated by S. Moinul Haq.

7) The History of Tabari. This 39 volume set is almost finished being translated by a collection of both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars.





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FROM THE QURAN - 70:22-30



"Not so the worshippers, who are steadfast in prayer, who set aside a due portion of their wealth for the beggar and for the deprived, who truly believe in the Day of Reckoning and dread the punishment of their Lord (for none is secure from the punishment of their Lord); who restrain their carnal desire (save with their wives and their slave girls, for these are lawful to them: he that lusts after other than these is a transgressor..."





This verse shows that Muslim men were allowed to have sex with their wives (of course) and their slave girls.







FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6

"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."



Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.









Ahmed, S. Prophet Muhammad and Aisha Siddiqa?

[internet] http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm [last access 21-12-11]





Silas. MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES

[internet] http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm [last access 21-12-11]





MuslimHope website: A’isha: Mohammed’s Nine-Year Old Wife

[internet] http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm [last access 21-12-11]





And at last being able to drop the veil of the ignorance of the world in general.

As we should be all sisters and brothers and no one would have to be frightened.

To remove the veil only at one’s family. As if family was safer, save it. Allez, save us. Loup y a. loop ya.



Nick kin keen, nick nit neat and teen.



Spread the word, it is ‘ingenuously’ hidden.

passe le moi, le mot, c est savamment cache.

Insidiously.



‘I DONT KNOW THIS NICK’ though ‘ola saint, ho, close’.

Yes, never did I. Exactly.

Though count on em, me, aim, to advertising it, advent-ure, our, till I die.

Die, dis, dit (say it in france)



Till, lit.



AISHA, the fourth ‘wife’ of Mohammad, the Islamic prophet, she was a 9 year-old human being. or benign? don't think i am pedo, border line idiot my joke is not sodo but most sad than any dodo. like you?



Forced marriage, as of course, one cannot ask for a person to agree to with their being tortured.

‘inalienable rights’. Ex: you cannot say that this person is a slave or subject to torture because he has previously agreed to it. Per peer.



The term inalienable rights (or unalienable rights) refers to a set of human rights that are absolute, not awarded by human power, not transferable to another power, and incapable of repudiation.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Inalienable_rights/id/2039529







Why is that hidden, because people (all people) of every ‘culture, ordure’ feel fine with child traffic prostitution.

The all lot of fucking us.





And I’d like to warn everybody of what my poor opinion is, since not censored yet, it is still my blog (not that communist, deny envy, my wife is mine as well as my hobby, and if you touch any body, looking for this type of sexual exploitation then I pray for the Sharia to apply and you be whipped out. But here a real problem. Me.

Because what I am a fucking average white, smiling at officialised and structural corruption, and when I smile my way out of these big beyond that essential questions I think I am funny, see even smart.

Running my way by all and famous consumerist god, that are but the image of the human too sad with shallowness to risk the mirroring.

We have to admit sex permit aperture, the willing to marry and discover other ethics. It allows love, and the addiction to it, the strength to fight for it, one’ spouse, up to papouade, the moon, or the mecca, depends on where you would had started the journey.

The holy lank, land, is piece and I d like to make few recommendations to make it out:

1 every one has the right to marry a Muslim, if he or she agrees and if and only if they can exert a totally free choice, exchange and fair opportunity.

2 I want aisha. Let me tell you that whether I could kill the pork, as the rotten meat, that do that to a child, then I should not as it would constitute speech hatred. What I am personally doing against sex slave and widespread pedophily? Could I not be one of pedophile?

Of course yes.

But the point is the image of the slaughter that to save the child anything is better.





Let’s insist on human for whom pretend to gross abuses pretesting pretexting to know demons or else jinn-gin, jig.

Or maybe some pricks could argue that it is because, or due to, the guy was a saint!



Also to articulate more than abuse of human rights but sheer abuses on human being. Pray it’s over.

Also I would like to announce officialy to you, banda, vandals, loose pussies, unissued, not assumed taking the pieces pouftas punter, immodest dikes, outrageous straights however waddling and begging for sexual recognizance, i.d or attention/detention. That homosexuality is banned from societies that want only to emphasize ‘sexual apart appurtenance’ tenure manure.

i.e people are pretending to be heterosexual only, in order to be able to emphasize sexuality redirected or diverted.

That is ‘I am not gay’ and to prevent the little ones to be I ll teach them by recurrent acts and rotten mentality authorizing pedophiles.

And the ultimate threat to finish as their feeding spree.







Kyou wihite pedo,















The same in cathesisme the little child, boy or girl, that asks repeatedly, that surremptiously



Aske,



Why do you kill th lamb?

Why do you kill th lamb?



The other side of the mediteranean sea, ti is the same

Why it is you ng girl, mere child, they long live emprisoned, as anyone knows what marriage means this side of the highest unemployment, highest slavery exploitation rate following colonisation, noe neo colons story.

The same and yet agin don’t think I condone you.





Little racist whitey that think that employ ing beautiful words could make us less sa ashamed of what is rottening the country. At work I mean and as for the beautiful word one deserves to use them the day the y think of their next moment application.





Limey

Bebe French

Britanny

Baby

If comedy could be the queen if only

Ot was pure joke, that this nighmare did not exist,

exit.

Not laugh.



Last judgment

reincarnation

to do anything to free one’s daughter imply the nice guy pretending to make peace and obsuing good process in the day.







Some said that it is not paedophilia, fucking good western educated says that it is not to be called pedophilia. In fact it is exactly that, it will have to be called paedophilia. In American English it would be call paedophilia, it is a future in the past. And it is this term used nowadays, some fear the term because of this: paedophilia includes parents, professionals, tourists, health and care civil servants, women, teachers...it is completely taboo but me I am a woman, a masculine one, the gay of the parade, and it is with difficulty that I can only look at a child without people treating like a pedo.

It is not because of my being gay but because people letting things in this state.

This taboo on pedophilia permitting parents and people to neglect and break contact with younger people totally for not being taxed as pedo or other making profit out of this disgusting trade.



I am not saying kill the pedo. It is the way one is brought up, I could have ended it abusing children this way, everyone could or may.

But then are the figures telling us that it has become this society feature?



Ps: but for the child isn’t it our lives that one has to risk, as adult, as being empowered with human wisdom brought by millenaries of sufferance or shall we let quarter of prostitutes, more or less, totally or virtually, enchained, reigned upon modernity?

Modernity. Mode dernier = last (in French). The last fashion. Why not last as beck backward. Ere nity.



http://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/2011/12/22/child-sexual-exploitation-and-act-of-marriage/?preview=true&preview_id=156&preview_nonce=406b104426



Unchained or detained.



After that if someone is one the way of them being freed, then the necessary stop and step has to be morally taken, and whatever the outbursts.



One day our youths will, could see not deliverance but just venganec on us to have let them undergo the hell for our commodities and play and pleas for us to be stripped out of our expectation of being served by being filthy: mercy.



One has to do to prevent this to happen? Think. Act. Or else.-_



FUCK YOU.

Should have been renamed as child for live- enslaved...[..]

Should be renamed as child for live- enslaved.


Should have been renamed as child for live- enslaved...[..]

Campaign file.

child sexual exploitation and act of marriage.

Child marriage. All about data and discussion by international sources.



The International Center for Research on Women (ICRW) data.



• Child Marriage

ICRW is leading efforts to find solutions that will eliminate the harmful traditional practice of child marriage.

Learn more »

Child Marriage Around the world: the importance of the question as a widespread fact.

• If present trends continue, 100 million girls will marry over the next decade. That’s 25,000 girls married every day for the next 10 years.

Poverty and Child Marriage

• Girls living in poor households are almost twice as likely to marry before 18 than girls in higher income households.

• More than half of the girls in Bangladesh, Mali, Mozambique and Niger are married before age 18. In these same countries, more than 75 percent of people live on less than $2 a day.

Education and Child Marriage

• Girls with higher levels of schooling are less likely to marry as children. In Mozambique, some 60 percent of girls with no education are married by 18, compared to 10 percent of girls with secondary schooling and less than one percent of girls with higher education.

• Educating adolescent girls has been a critical factor in increasing the age of marriage in a number of developing countries, including Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Taiwan and Thailand.

Health and Child Marriage

• Girls younger than 15 are five times more likely to die in childbirth than women in their 20s. Pregnancy is the leading cause of death worldwide for women ages 15 to 19.

• Child brides face a higher risk of contracting HIV because they often marry an older man with more sexual experience. Girls ages 15 – 19 are 2 to 6 times more likely to contract HIV than boys of the same age in sub-Saharan Africa.

Violence and Child Marriage

• Girls who marry before 18 are more likely to experience domestic violence than their peers who marry later. A study conducted by ICRW in two states in India found that girls who were married before 18 were twice as likely to report being beaten, slapped or threatened by their husbands than girls who married later.

• Child brides often show signs symptomatic of sexual abuse and post-traumatic stress such as feelings of hopelessness, helplessness and severe depression.

Religion and Child Marriage

• No one religious affiliation was associated with child marriage, according to a 2007 ICRW study. Rather, a variety of religions are associated with child marriage in countries throughout the world.







Country Name % girls married before 18

1 Niger 74.5

2 Chad 71.5

3 Mali 70.6

4 Bangladesh 66.2

5 Guinea 63.1

6 Central African Republic

57

7 Mozambique 55.9

8 Burkina Faso 51.9

9 Nepal 51.4

10 Ethiopia 49.2

11 Malawi 48.9

12 Madagascar 48.2

13 Sierra Leone 47.9

14 Cameroon 47.2

15 Eritrea 47

16 Uganda 46.3

17 India 44.5

18 Nicaragua 43.3

19 Zambia 41.6

20 Tanzania 41.1



ICRW (2010). Analysis of Demographic and Health Survey (DHS) data. Most recent surveys for all DHS surveyed countries. Rankings are based on data in which women ages 20 – 24 reported being married by age 18.

(United Nations Population Fund, 2011)

There will no doubt be discussion about rich countries' commitments to increase funds and whether governments in the developing world have used resources effectively. Unfortunately little attention will be given to child marriage and its damaging impact on the health of millions of girls and women.

There is, in fact, compelling evidence that child marriage has been a major brake on progress towards no less than six of the eight MDGs. Our hopes of reducing child and maternal mortality, combating HIV/Aids and achieving universal primary education are damaged by the fact that one in seven girls in the developing world – and it is overwhelmingly girls who suffer this fate - are married before they reach 15. So, too, are our ambitions to eliminate extreme poverty and promote gender equality.

The statistics are stark. In poor countries, babies born to mothers under 18 are 60% more likely to die in their first year than those born to older women. Girls under 15 are five times more likely to die during pregnancy and childbirth than women in their 20s. Lack of information, marriage to much older men and the inability to negotiate safe sexual practices also puts child brides at greater risk of HIV infection than their unmarried peers.

Child brides are more likely to drop out of school to concentrate on domestic chores and child rearing. But this bias against educating girls starts even earlier. In societies where girls are normally married off young, there can seem little point in investing in their education.

Poverty is a major driver of child marriage. In many poor countries and communities, marrying off a daughter relieves a family of an extra mouth to feed. A bride price or dowry can also be a much-needed windfall for desperate families.

All this has a damaging inter-generational impact. The children of young and poorly educated girls tend to do less well in school and have lower earnings as adults, perpetuating the cycle of poverty.

Child marriages take place in every continent but they are particularly common in south Asia and parts of sub-Saharan Africa. Child marriage rates reach 65% in Bangladesh and 48% in India – 76% in Niger and 71% in Chad. In the coming decade an estimated 100 million girls will be married before they reach 18.

You might think, given the powerful evidence of the damage caused to individuals and societies, that the practice of child marriage would be high on both national and global agendas. But what is striking is the discrepancy between the scale and seriousness of the problem and the attention it has been given.

We understand, of course, the reluctance to intervene in what is traditionally considered a family matter. We recognise that child marriage is embedded deep in the traditions of many societies and is all too often sanctioned by religious leaders. Change will not be easy.

There is some evidence that, thanks to grassroots campaigns and new economic opportunities for women, child marriage is in decline in some parts of the world. However, at the current rate of progress, it will take hundreds of years to disappear. The challenge is how we can help communities accelerate change.

This is why we and our fellow Elders are committed to drawing attention to the damage that child marriage is causing and to supporting those working towards ending it. This means a new emphasis on engagement, debate and education – especially at the community level.

We actively seek wider engagement with religious leaders on this issue. No religions we know explicitly promote child marriage. The fact that religious leaders condone and sanction it in many societies owes more to custom and tradition than doctrine. But we cannot allow the distortion of faith or long-standing custom to be used as an excuse to ignore the rights of girls and women, and to hold their communities in poverty.

What we have learned over the years is that social change of this kind cannot be imposed from above. Laws have little impact. The overwhelming majority of countries already outlaw child marriage through domestic legislation or are signatories to international treaties that prohibit it. But this has not fed through to change on the ground. In Zambia, for example, the legal minimum age for marriage is 21, yet 42% of girls are married by the age of 18 and nearly one in 12 by the time they reach 15. Similar contradictions are evident in many countries.

(ICRW, 2011)



National and international communities are increasingly recognizing child marriage

as a serious problem, both as a violation of girls’ human rights and as a hindrance

to key development outcomes



On balance, the results from this composite of evaluations lean toward positive findings,

indicating that a set of strategies focusing on girls’ empowerment, community mobilization,

enhanced schooling, economic incentives and policy changes have improved knowledge,

attitudes, and behavior related to child marriage prevention



The consequences of child marriage to the girls who experience it can be devastating

(Jain & Kurz 2007; UNICEF 2001; 2005; Mathur et al 2003). Early marriage leads to

early childbearing, with significantly higher maternal mortality and morbidity rates as

well as higher infant mortality rates (Mensch 2005; UNICEF 2005; Save the Children

2004; Bott & Jejeebhoy 2003). Moreover, child marriage has negative effects on girls’

education. Girls with low levels of schooling are more likely to be married early, and

child marriage virtually puts an end to a girl’s education (Mathur et al 2003; Mensch 2005;

Jejeebhoy 1995). A child bride’s lack of education and peers limits her support systems,

and without skills, mobility, and connections, she is constrained in her ability to overcome

poverty for herself, her children, or her family. Young girls married to older men with more

sexual experience are also at greater risk of HIV infection (Clark 2004), and child brides

are at heightened risk of violence in the home (ICRW 2005; Santhya et al 2010).



The lack of education, health, physical safety, and autonomy deprives girls of their

basic human rights, and it also acts as a brake to social and economic development.

National and international indicators on maternal health, education, food security,

poverty eradication, HIV/AIDS, and gender equality are all negatively linked with high

child marriage rates. In fact, child marriage undermines the achievement of each of

the eight Millennium Development Goals and global targets to reduce poverty worldwide

(UNICEF 2006).





Actions. (ICRW)



To empower women, advance gender Equality and fight poverty in the developing world

To examine past efforts and how well they have worked well-documented, and even fewer are well-evaluated and evidence base

Fostering information, skills, and networks for girls in combination with community mobilization.

Child marriage prevention

Signs that large-scale structural efforts aimed at other goals, such as education, health, and poverty reduction, are beginning to make a connection with child marriage prevention.

Communities, families and policymakers

Girls’ enrollment and retention

Life Skills program

These programs are larger scale, school and incentive-based programs that involve national ministries, multilateral agencies like the World Bank, and experts from the health or education sectors.

Delaying marriage



Mixed results: deeply entrenched social and cultural practices.

(ICRW, 2011)





1. DEPTH VERSUS SCALE AND SUSTAINABILITY

However, there is a possibility that the results may be temporary

and simply a response to a heavy dose of the intervention



The results suggest that, with some qualifications, this

strategy is working. However, there is a possibility that the results may be temporary

and simply a response to a heavy dose of the intervention. Moreover, the program’s

complexity may limit sophisticated evaluation, and program costs and infrastructural

demands may make scale and sustainability unlikely.



In the realm of child marriage prevention, more creative evaluation

approaches may be necessary to effectively understand and appreciate the extent to

which the desirable change has materialized. Researchers, implementers and donors

working in the field will have to decide whether they are wedded to positivist social

science or are willing to explore emerging thinking on “systems change” and “collective

impact,” which may be better suited to the endeavor of child marriage prevention





it is possible that the evaluation occurred too soon.

Programs have deployed a set of five core strategies to prevent child marriage:

• Empowering girls with information, skills and support networks

• Educating and mobilizing parents and community members

• Enhancing the accessibility and quality of formal schooling for girls

• Offering economic support and incentives for girls and their families

• Fostering an enabling legal and policy framework



AGENDA FOR FUTURE ACTION

Find the right balance between depth versus scale and sustainability by relying

on the experience of child marriage prevention experts, and also exploring new

government and private sector platforms and partnerships in the education,

health and economic sectors.





Associated subjects: related issues of the ICRW:

• Areas of Work

o Adolescents

 Child Marriage

 Agriculture & Food Security

o Economic Empowerment

 Assets & Property Rights

 Employment & Enterprise Development

o HIV & AIDS

 Stigma & Discrimination

o Population & Reproductive Health

 Fertility & Empowerment Network

o Violence Against Women

 Engaging Men & Boys

o Emerging Issues

 Innovation

 Women & Technology

o Institutional Expertise

 Advocacy & Policy Engagement

 Building Capacity

 Measurement & Evaluation

 Research & Analysis

 Strategic Guidance

 Forced Marriage Continues in Many Countries





Case study:

Yemeni child bride dies of internal bleeding

HUMAN RIGHTS

A 12-year-old Yemeni bride died of internal bleeding following intercourse three days after she was married off to an older man, the United Nations Children's Fund said.



April 09, 2010
By Mohammed Jamjoom, CNN







Malaysian minister rejects child marriage reform

(AFP) – Mar 16, 2010

KUALA LUMPUR — Malaysia's religion minister on Tuesday defended Islamic laws that allow girls under 16 to marry, amid a controversy over two youngsters who were married off to middle-aged men.

The issue has flared in Malaysia after reports that two girls aged 10 and 11 were wed in the conservative northern state of Kelantan last month. They have now been removed from their husbands.

Rights groups have called for the reform of Islamic laws that allow marriage under the age of 16 if religious officials give their consent. Sharia law runs in parallel with civil law in multi-ethnic Malaysia.

"There is no need to amend the law," Jamil Khir Baharom, a cabinet minister in charge of religious affairs, told reporters.

"The law already exists... marrying someone aged 16 and below requires the consent of the court. The court does not simply grant the consent," he said.

"Maturity is a subjective question. It depends on the development of the person. Maturity is not based on age solely."

Pressure group Sisters in Islam has called for an end to child marriages, saying the practice was "unacceptable" but continued in Malaysia because of a "belief that Muslim girls can be married off once they reach puberty".

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5inxYecjp4rz2Di91pAw_hTlMpTYw





YEMEN: Islamic lawmaker decries child marriage ban as part of 'Western agenda'

April 18, 2010

But that may prove a daunting challenge since fierce opposition against a ban on child brides still runs high among some religious leaders and conservatives.

Sheik Mohammed Hamzi, an official of the Islamist Yemeni opposition party Islaah and the imam of the Al-Rahman mosque in the Yemeni capital of Sana, is one of those who staunchly opposes a legal ban on child marriage.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/04/yemen-fierce-opposition-to-child-marriage-ban-persists-among-conservatives.html





U.S. International Protecting Girls by Preventing Child Marriage Act

Child marriage undermines global development efforts focused on creating more educated, healthier and economically stable populations. ICRW knows that by combating child marriage, we will increase the effectiveness of U.S. foreign assistance dollars – and give millions of girls a better chance to fulfill their potential.

Read More »







Child marriage: our commitment to ending it

Child marriage has been a major brake on progress towards six of the eight millennium development goals, write Jimmy Carter and Fernando Henrique Cardoso



http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2010/sep/17/child-marriage





Here the idea of my presentation.



Facts, figures, consequences of child marriage.

The fact that people seem to care, write about it, but a question arise.



Rational for letting that happen:



Religious.

Rational, maturity subjective are ‘reason’ used by people wanting this type of ‘sexual exploitation’ to go on. They will say that a child might be mature enough to marry an adult.

In every country this more than a scourge might happen, and happen in a gross scale under Christianity or Hindu religion influence. However one could have a particular concern about Islamic interpretation of the Hadith:



Religious people will preach that Mohamed had four wives in order not to consummate their marriage (even so children had been registered) but to simply give to women the legal protection they needed. At the time being a widow or unmarried could equal to being doomed to ‘abject poverty’. Also the polygamous “status” of mahammad, officialising other marriage would be trumped by saying that these marriage were not consummated. But economical household only, within which what liberty were octroied is some details I haven’t studied.

Also these material are very difficult to handle as a non Arabic speaker, non theologian, non historian…thus whatever might be found would be subject to interminable theorization and interpretation. Also my aim here is not to advocate a way of interpretation and thence not judging the texts of Islamic believes but doing so to the way they are discussed by ‘believers’ and worshippers and take as a justification for present actions and edits.



Mohammed in in most sources said to have ‘legally married’ four women. The last of which was a 6 year old called Aisha, with whom Mohammed had sexual intercourse when she was a 9 year old and him an over 50 year old character.

In many places, of course, that story is taken to justify actual and today’s institutionalized pedophilia (see case study) (Silas, 2011).





Sociologic:

Should one care about rational? Cultural relativism is used to give many reasons about child marriage customs, and defend the fact that nothing is done or should be done ‘in a quiet manner’ as it is society practices’. Cultural relativism is a viewpoint adopted by many in sociology.



Cultural relativism is a widely held position in the modern world. Words like “pluralism,” “tolerance,” and “acceptance” have taken on new meanings, as the boundaries of “culture” have expanded. The loose way in which modern society defines these ideas has made it possible for almost anything to be justified on the grounds of “relativism.” The umbrella of “relativism” includes a fairly wide range of ideas, all of which introduce instability and uncertainty into areas that were previously considered settled.

However, the problem with moving from cultural perspective to cultural relativism is the erosion of reason that it causes. Rather than simply saying, “we need to understand the morals of other cultures,” it says, “we cannot judge the morals of other cultures,” regardless of the reasons for their actions.

http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/cultural-relativism.htm



I will argue that some people demonstrate how Western thinking is biased in saying that it is only about “what we think”, that culture is a matter of opinion. I would answer that it is not about no one thinks but what about facts. It is not about taking into consideration how I feel, or how the average people, anyone feel but to concentrate on what the girls endure.

Also on a larger reciprocity, if they want to know what people think and feel well it would be just fair enough that they go under, through the torture that they let happen in the name of ‘relativisation’, ‘tolerance’ or ‘diplomacy’.

Similarly, to take a different analogy, if you permit sexual mutilation, then to understand how it is injustice, would it be useful to think yourself without sex, clitoris or penis?

Even, in breach of such bodily integrity (whatever body mutilation or sexual slavery) retributive justice would make sense happening. Ex: if one is threatening a child and that there is no possibility to stop you but imprisonment then should prevail such punishment.







Aims of my presentation:



Why cultural relativism about other places?

Taboo inside one’s own?



Is it the product of poverty alone or mentalities?

Would the western world justify not intervening and preventing invoking ‘cultural relativism’?

In this presentation, are listed a number of articles in which girls are often viewed through their health, productivity, diplomas, live skills, social achievements…

One question certainly less reviewed by officials is the links between child marriage, and slavery, domestic abuses and torture. Or the fact that children has to be protected not because of the measurable results on criteria and evaluation but because to ‘marry’ a child to an adult (constant biologic) is an act of torture, total control upon personal development, “to own another life, and perpetual violation.





UNPF (2011)



LAC: Latin America and the Caribbean:



Widespread in the west?



Even less so mentioned the taboo on pedophilia.

If I am mentioning taboo here is because pedophilia though concerning the more vulnerable population, the children, often by their own carers or familiars, (parents, family, siblings…) will be happening concealed by ‘privacy’.



I would argue that pedophilia is a very widespread phenomemon in ‘first world countries’ but is so the object of ‘tabooisation’ that for example schools, or civil society did not elaborate projects to talk openly and regularly about these subjects, leaving ‘sexual education’ and what is sexual behavior or sexual predation up to the family to set up or to ignore…that is to say not made public and leaving certain children in total ignorance or impotence about a danger that target them especially and solely.









• The National Resource Council estimates the percent of the U.S. population which has been sexually abused to range from a low of 20-24 percent to a high of 54-62 percent of the population; the higher estimate includes sexualized exposure without touching, such as masturbating in front of the child.1 The largest retrospective study on the prevalence of child sexual abuse found 27 percent of women and 16 percent of men reported abuse.4

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php





Similar data on sexual and physical abuses and violence had notoriously been reported in countries (yet giving the green light to such enquiries) such as France.





video



The Bride Price: Consequences of Child Marriage Worldwide ...


12 Mar 2008 ... The Bride Price: Consequences of Child Marriage Worldwide is a video containing moving images by Stephanie Sinclair - recipient of the 2007 ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamNBfI5P8o














Bibliography:



- Ahmed, S. Prophet Muhammad and Aisha Siddiqa?

[internet] http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_aisha.htm [last access 21-12-11]



-Advocates for Youth. 2008.

[internet] http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php. [last access 21-12-11]



-Human rights democracy website.

[internet] http://middleeast.about.com/od/humanrightsdemocracy/a/child-brides.htm [last access 21-12-11]

-Humanist and Ethical Union: The world union of Humanist organizations.

[internet] http://www.iheu.org/child-marriage-a-violation-of-human-rights [last access 21-12-11]



-International Center for Research on Women (ICRW)

[internet] http://www.icrw.org/child-marriage-facts-and-figures [last access 21-12-11]



-Jamjoom, M. Yemeni child bride dies of internal bleeding. CNN, April 09, 2010

[internet] http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-09/world/yemen.child.bride.death_1_yemeni-marriage-child-brides?_s=PM:WORLD [last access 21-12-11]



-MuslimHope website: A’isha: Mohammed’s Nine-Year Old Wife

[internet] http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm [last access 21-12-11]



-Philosophy: all about. Cultural relativism.

[internet] http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/cultural-relativism.htm [last access 21-12-11]



-Sandels , A. YEMEN: Islamic lawmaker decries child marriage ban as part of 'Western agenda' Latimes,

April 18, 2010.

[internet] http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/04/yemen-fierce-opposition-to-child-marriage-ban-persists-among-conservatives.html [last access 21-12-11]



-Silas. MUHAMMAD, AISHA, ISLAM, AND CHILD BRIDES

[internet] http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/childbrides.htm [last access 21-12-11]



-UNICEF. United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund

[internet] http://www.unicef.org/protection/files/Child_Marriage.pdf [last access 21-12-11]



-United Nations Population Fund.

http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2005/presskit/factsheets/facts_child_marriage.htm

Saturday, December 17, 2011

take a peek a glance at my brothers. they ww ere the only ones ihad.

take a peek a glance at my brothers. Others. Hot her.



On anger. Angel piece,wwon . eternal. Peace on them, for most mosc mock sure. But what will bring their having been beamed and veerer put down by disinter(est(ment? Lane r ete. (summer or use to be, in french). Will pay the ignorant. The ones that pretend not to know = (= equal or parallel sign and gesture) to be offended, take umbrage when they are told that they sould not be able to pollute (the society, the economy, the environment) in all permission and quietly.



oh, there, o-ther.



Vain, vein

Throat, troth.

Thrush truth, thrust trust.

Religion? real legion. Ligature. Ligament.



This is calle-d an islamic republic.

Why have they been blindfolded? Not to till the last judgment the audience, eyes, us, sue and bring.

Or is oen looking for torture covering?

Let have them prayers reach the invisible apex, peak (cime) and their union seam, assay seen.

Ass as sin a.s asset.

Which muslins would @grant@ me the right to marry. Gee,rant. And dowry, dar-fur dairy diary...oriole, ordeal, or-deal? Bi Dia.rrhea.

Talking about rights and feeling of others, do you know what it is to be forbidden to have your own family, partners, love life, expression … western calls that frustration? To term it is not enough. It is not enough for a therm (to get the warmth, to feel human and a living creature). Or political tenure with you boasting, or bolstering, bowstring protecting human rights) with more cold feet that there is furniture.

Seizure.



At least they die together. In that the romantism and the unexpected sweetness not in the story their stories but of the image we are warned of. Warned with.

But believe me that if I could stop the next one, ti is with proportionate measures that I would adopt if needed = inevitable = if they, on the one, who persist to threaten their lives.

h.r is here to recall us about the need to avoid counter attack at any times, but not at any price.





IRAN EXECUTES 2 GAY TEENAGERS (updated)

Two gay Iranian teenagers -- one 18, the other believed to be 16 or 17, were executed this week for the "crime" of hom-osexuality, the Iranian Student News Agency (ISNA) reported on July 19. (The ISNA report is in Farsi, and was translated into English by the British gay rights group OutRage!, which released its report today--ISNA also provided the terrifying photos of the teens' last moments you see on this page. You can see an enlarged version of each photo by left-clicking on them) The two youths -- identified only by their initials as M.A. and A.M., were hanged on July 19 in Edalat (Justice) Square in the city of Mashhad in north-eastern Iran, on the orders of Court No. 19. The hanging of the teens was also reported by the National Council of Resistance of Iran.

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/07/iran_executes_2.html





I argue that people here that are said of themselves that they are Muslims and religious people, if they were the slightest so would coma bat, comb at.

On combat. Funest.

On condemning the regime that does that, in the name of peace and love, in the name of religion, if any religions = here religious impulse = seed for it (that justifies its claws and calls) there is.





To remember.

Not to forget. Thank you from the bottom of the heart to any whom do.





Whither what fate, one wishes, sick whisk or wisk, wither the world to take???

The balm, blame.

Rights and fundamental freedom



it is just to give you an idea of what step-hen is talking about. On individual real freedom.



Countries vote to accept execution of gays

The United Nations has removed a plea for lesbians, gays and bisexuals not to be executed in a narrow vote.

Tris Reid-Smith

886

news.PinkPaper.com

Friday, 16 December 2011

http://news.pinkpaper.com/NewsStory/4319/18/11/2010/countries-vote-to-accept-execution-of-gays.aspx The United Nations has removed a plea for lesbians, gays and bisexuals not to be executed in a narrow vote.



For the last 10 years sexual orientation has been included in a list of discriminatory grounds for executions – gay rights activists say the vote to remove that listing is “dangerous and disturbing.”



The UN resolution urges countries to protect the right to life of all people, calling on them to investigate killings based on discriminatory grounds. Sexual orientation was previously listed as one of these forms of discrimination, alongside ethnicity, religious belief and linguistic minorities.



Others protected by the resolution were human rights defenders (like journalists, lawyers and demonstrators), street children and members of indigenous communities.



But now sexual orientation has been taken out of the list. The amendment was supported by Benin in Africa on behalf of the African Group in the UN General Assembly. It passed on a narrow vote of 79 for, 70 against , 17 abstentions and 26 absent.



Some of those voting to remove sexual orientation were countries where gays are known to be or thought to be executed or summarily killed including Iran, Nigeria, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Iraq.



The UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and many European countries voted in favour of gays.



Cary Alan Johnson, Executive Director of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, said: “This vote is a dangerous and disturbing development. It essentially removes the important recognition of the particular vulnerability faced by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people – a recognition that is crucial at a time when 76 countries around the world criminalise homosexuality, five consider it a capital crime and countries like Uganda are considering adding the death penalty to their laws criminalising homosexuality.”



jsut to put everyone into context dar-ren.

Just, suit.

for those who don't under stand. but ho(o)ve.

funest, not funiest.



To remember.

Not to forget. Thank you from the bottom of the heart to whom do.





To do:

Dot.



Homosexuality will never be crushed, without self hatred and immodest view and msiconcpetion. Miss, sic con petition. Hotter. Hot ther. Hot hers, Others.

You see we could, we would die for the right to have one’s family happily.



Ps: I am not thinking of dying being handed, crucified or hanged nevertheless.

Not that I am for war or the cold war that is going on if those mean to kill innocent or to kill out out of not self defense or when at any price, but another life, keep every soul alive would have been defensible. As main reasons of wars are economically false economy, of incentives.

Mind, go to war and not knowing exactly if it is not your own people that don’t want you to be liquidated, at the stake of the stock exchange, bringing cash or servants to us, the servants with better pay.

On jihad, e-had, a lot of –had suffix in Arabic, the other acade-my acade-mia, like the west not out of medhi eval (evil, oval, arcade ovule, luv) stories when their accounts come, see.

Jee had (the treatment) of the Christians, once roasted, in ham-ster, lousy roe-ster, rooster, roar-ster haste eating the glorious lamb. On Christian roster and ouster. Christ in nit, in tin. At least did not fuck with teen, but as such, as church, bin, been made the sacrificator scarification virgin as sole prize for praizing pacification. The Christian and their passion. Pas zion...9, pass- if thick.

As for the christinas they absolve their sin in saying that their prophet die on the cross to whas, whish what wash-ash their bloody pussies… none, nun of them.

Acad-emy enmy.

Sorry a bout the other denomination (Caesar, shaocesscou, chaos-and-sky) they did not was-h h my brain for a question of geography.



Have, ave. had, add. Adv. Advent, advertise, ad.am. heavy (breath loud) ivy.

Was-r

Wars.





To be call religion and have become down to simply perform an ideological sit (tis, tease till then) sick system.



Me I have to admit that I feel betray by people wanted themselves to be representative of a ‘afaith’ afamed. As so often if you ask about what, well the answer will be that thy aer not so much well read, when touching ignominy like that. To hide what the purpose of one’s set of ‘believes;’. As not everyone, in fact none is welcome as enter singnify loose equal rights ain the research of exploitation and hierarchy establishing…but religion the rascall of prelat magnifying. On family state and mafia-familish.

Famish.

E rash and scoundrel on scourge penalty. Pen almighty.



To remove the veil, caps and bearbs, one should feel at home. In what world ord ordr without row. D as devotion and d as dedication, edu cation. Not as death for break nor bread.

Not among the veils, nor among the blank. The blank? The western hypocrisy, and the rest of the wor-ld. Hell, held, ell edit.

Uk censorship.

We gonna, are about, to beg for water. What do you want to say?



Peace on our souls. It is not prophecy or prayers but the notion of the ulti-mate. Ulterior mass see.

Fourbue, le four a bu. Dehydrate. The hydrae ate.













Satan.

Santa, tan as (feedback!?) sans toi.

I write to you as I was waiting. I saw the other day this gazelle gracious and gracile =+ swanlike, nav-et. About whom I cannot life without Now I have seen.

But then for the night of noel, Noe = (ho Noah, one, elle, I expected- nova, nothing come though it is what I am worried about (abs out, absinthe). Worry up to be drawn and drown by les (b)eaux. Les zoos.

S lez ho. To be raw. Biro.

Sleaze, no. lease haut. Lea, soit so, les oiseaux. Contextual of k (key, qui) d-ove, evo. Evolen evelyn Helen. Take part me as one but you, a duel, “a deux, adieu is not folly”.

Alongside a book fo philo, the mother of disciplines, the mother of the field, for staying well firm as in my couple and my contra, construe, contrite, contrive, contree (french = country, centre.) the one fourbue (=exhaust, crimple, joint-knackered) with authorite. Rite, francais. Franc sait! Yeh, iai.

Phil-, file = tail up, fulfill, quest and pursuance of happiness? Sole reason for going on infinitely. Indefinite?k-u-pi-d usurpation of delectation. Defect. Derelict. Select. Elect, ricity, lech, elect, tcele, relics, tinsel, celle, c- quelle. Sequel.

k-u-pi-d

Cup dip cup-id=em



Elect, ricity, Elect, wrick city,

Recite rectify.

The charade considered as dangerous as shown how words are de-vol. volume and volatile.



The veil as most visible means of control, called culture as they had eaten every other belief of autochthonous authentic auto tone noise, noisy, nose noes knows tranquility and blessing for nature (including the female that today as to wear it supported by the eunuchs of the west waiting for being served by more than should allow one plate). Pluralism on edge. Pledge. Late.



nous (n s, nous)

n.

1. Philosophy

a. Reason and knowledge as opposed to sense perception.

b. The rational part of the individual human soul.

c. The principle of the cosmic mind or soul responsible for the rational order of the cosmos.

d. In Stoicism, the equivalent of Logos.

e. In Neo-Platonism, the image of the absolute good, containing the cosmos of intelligible beings.

2. Chiefly British Good sense; shrewdness: "Hillela had the nous to take up with the General when he was on the up-and-up again" (Nadine Gordimer).

nous [naʊs]

n

1. (Philosophy) Metaphysics mind or reason, esp when regarded as the principle governing all things

2. Brit slang common sense; intelligence

[from Greek, literally: mind]

common sense, good sense, gumption, horse sense, mother wit, sense - mind, psyche, brain, head

cognition, knowledge, noesis - the psychological result of perception and learning and reasoning

noddle - an informal British expression for head or mind; "use your noddle"

tabula rasa - a young mind not yet affected by experience (according to John Locke)

ego - (psychoanalysis) the conscious mind

unconscious, unconscious mind - that part of the mind wherein psychic activity takes place of which the person is unaware

subconscious, subconscious mind

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in french, nous, no? nous = Us.





So well you will excuse my aggressivity (aggressiveness as an activity) as it may, could originate from that sort of chronic dolor and fatigue out of disarray. Or by the fact that I don’t do a lot to think and kick, it may.



I am so rude, so fucking rude, at latest there is the blog at last where I am not get rid of. But it is this, one would soon wait for more and more hideous and monstruosity (menstru, menstrue), as a entertaining minstrel gallery of accountability without res of ponspilate (ponce=pounce) possibility, an answer from what is known, proved, disinter, unearth, dig out. Even there and here throwing up, turns up to be envied. Anchora nd Anchovy.

Tack on boat and bank on plan-e-t. Maybe should we count on the machines to start being rebel? Revel.

Or what happens? Are we ready to go just after the last pulverized mammals, last but one.

Hope insects could survive, they have been more polite to me that any kind of rat. Target. Than any kind of rate.



Starkly and jogging hutch got to go to the butchery, by want, no lest, of bush. Hush-hush sun shushes sludgy.

But on the sounds, many of them Microsoft won’t have it. Among those of agony.



To start disagreeing with ideas, would be the precursor of disagreeing with concrete present dealings.

Deal. Lead.



Thursday, October 6, 2011

i wrote, but to facilitate your reading underlining parts which are visible on this site http://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/ might well be prove more than useful.

look due to the fact that i cannot upload word document really necessary to a faster and better and more pleasant understanding. or to be honest without play on underlining you will drop the reading as if not prioritized this style become really too much tedious. i will close cettevies blog and upload what is to download at http://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/  thank you for following it a little it is of tremendous help.



i wrote, but to facilitate your reading underlining parts which are visible on this site http://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/ might well be proved more, than useful.

Hi deer hole, on university perdition and fees for pigeons.

Hi deer hole, on university perdition and fees for pigeons.






i wrote, but to facilitate your reading underlining parts which are visible on this site http://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/ might well be prove more than useful.









Fees (kath) price erect edict education likes luxury as, at the image of, its building anti-sustainablisterofausterity and anti-humility facing not but shaping the restricted humane are standing as a proof of ‘bourgeois liberalism’ (or adoption of starlet = middle class, attitude) prostituition institution (service) sovereignty and absolutism abbot ado.



You are on the site http://cettevies.blogspot.com/ that are going to try and deal about the fact that Roehampton university, makes its publicity citing its environmentalist sensibility, is hosting three businesses on the main campus: the 3 different cafes and canteens. These private businesses don’t want to give out the left-overs of the kilos of food they throw a day due to mismanagement. For the birds and other creatures of the campus. On being used system.

Remember the preciousness, the cruciality of food, remember that there are birdies in roehampton (thanks to Richmond park not to the uni that cannot even manages the recycling well, that leave the lights on days and nights, that frown known damn gown hundreds of mattresses, let them under the weather without calling an organisation for the poorer that would have be happy to collect those at the drop of a hat, to take on an environmentalist professor maybe that will say about the squirrels that they are tree-rats - that make me really wondering how they can boast in their (international business star strategy) advertisement about roehampton being a model in term of ennui = bore-dom or ennemi? (I forget they pay you the circus stall this year when the event should be owe won by, down to the students) In therm of environment. As this area is one of the last semblances of grand green left in London. Deprived of undergrowth bushes, diversity on species is al-ready at its alarming lowest... these spineless prim-ates will use hygiene and safety and business mindless to justify their not wanting to give a bit of food to the local fauna. (Borough recycling ‘produces’ trucks emission and avoidable labour) I ll ask you to sing a petition in order for the pets of the uni to be fed by the left over of what you paid (of what every one paid in fact food don’t rain or each drop a benediction rather), when I ll have made out how to do a petition on line, if any suggestions please drop me a line.

If you want to know a bit more about the uni (pervi) you can as well read:

https://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/

articles: https://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/on-human-rights-not-taught-any-more-at-all-a-toll-as-a-speciality-in-university/

https://inthenameofhumanrights.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/added-info-on-roe-save-the-h-r/



Guys, I d like you to know that france is holding on to their 300 pounds a year, for paying universities.

300 pounds a year, brothers and sisters, this was what euro would have meant, more than the money.

What do you think they will do with your fees? Well look around you.

http://www.roehampton.ac.uk/news/tuition-fees-2012.html

"In a university where the majority of students come from relatively modest backgrounds, most will prefer to know that what they are paying is being spent directly on teaching and learning." Quote from roehampton uni site [money spend on learning???] Direct = die in our rectum cos roehampton is the all precincts that we don’t need to learn, this level of novelty that should not be legitimated by queens nor royalty are here the bottom line blossom (do share holding facilitate money laundering??).

I d like to know where a detailed account of money spending might be available, any ideas???



Well the P.D (deontology post) have it précised for you, afresh, the entry fees for you student don’t even think it is brought back into research they insist it is not (they have the choice between 6000 and 9000, they choose 8ooo) YOU WILL BE HAPPY STUDENTS TO BE TOLD, LIKE IF WHAT YOU WERE STUDYING WAS RESEARCH ANYWAY. How to justify a so conspicuous dishonesty, to rip off people with rise of salaries, when people are getting poorer, with abuses on the land and its products, when pollution are poisonous and dire (look at the state of the buildings! When we could be on desk made by our grandmothers) it is social sciences scenes sickness thinking- thank you for it all, IT IS ALL WHAT THEY THINK OF THEREFORE IT IS ALL WHAT THEY GOT, JAM, IN BETWEEN THE EARS, or IN BETWEEN sneers?



SO WHERE go your fees? As to be or no longer be, left-overs of the question.

Into the lectures that never last as much as the 70 % of time announced in our timetables, there is so little to be refined, cute. "Professor Paul O'Prey, vice-chancellor at Roehampton University, had a 21 per cent pay rise to £218,000, (now on £246,000) as well the 'tax-free benefit' of a home." (Daily Mail) We should have unit, your site has been a model of disorganization? The fees rise, the salaries too, for intellectualizing actual bourgeois b#sstardsort of way.made the elites edit their spitespermit copulating pullulating each other in between .

Info thanks to h.rights roehampton site source.

“It is actually written in the university of roehampton ethos: we work to promote social justice “(o’byrne, d.) When in the past promoting for a subject on the remand but that has achieved to ‘....’ ‘secure founding for crucible = h.rights despised project once it did not bring money directly from the tax payers to these bandits-unable to try to organise public awareness and in fact slashing popular courses in human rights reign domains as business (dough mains) their true engine and motives don’t want to be fit to h.r enquiries.

You could have send students or not (paid syndically) for the promotion of human rights in high schools, working or not working, this was under our moral duties and source of legitimacy.

An interrogation still hovers with no remain: Justice at the service of?

On the books forever? Or on the university vice cons ulul’s salary rise, but not on research? Or on the ignorances’ puerile bliss. But where it is hurting that it is just not that, deliberately abusing- learners will be happy to be placed on the same tack. Or ignominious ignoramus “bay be say”. Bay? Remote, add acdc acid nitric but sounding as daddy as sugary.

On the nation? On citizenship? On the staff, or you future guys that could be about to deceasely decide and declaim. De side. Deck lame. ‘desk arse on’ on “marketisation” of the knowledge Babel arable peril babble: the uni inverse, city.

Mind on the deck you could pretend be the future staff of those 5 star hostellers (I never thought that I would have to see millions pounds buildings used by thousands persons years after years managed in order not to show a stain-stainless but not on the blame) that has become university, a show down on means, a production of the based biased, p-residenced by the dean of the business schools, herself taken for being an authority on tourism and personal management, bailed morocco life style touristico (on phase) Fes (as we can still do resources management study to ruin Morocco more successfully). You will savour the day of your bin taken on by people on this resort, neo colons and national compeer consorts. Nagging jackcousi (aloof alouf jealousy) Suzy n’a guere, S’s army you ll be delighted to make your own foe fee fake free? With a bit on condescendence to the personal, individual, to the whole people and the next generation, working free trade hours for a couscous, see? if you are a choir of spired trainees. You could start-up in leather jobs or tanning staff instead of sing, things.

I ll tell you what afoul the fess, about the fees: why not bring the “Mona Lisa” in, morons??

For receptions, the catering, the building renovated every 6 moons or monsoons, renovating on and on, destroyed fashion tombs raiders mercenary, they play the thieves and the gendarmerie (vive cabals cavalry v.a.t). the special conferences that bring other professors from all over the world -especially for the university last year for human rights, the very same month of the closure of the human rights undergraduate department (previously funded by the tax payer money-convert into what?) was announced. Guys, profs in that instance that read their papers and show to students and other professional absolutely no signs of having come to fulfil any projects whatsoever (for what were they invited but to boost this miserable economy of despicability) that would have been the true underling, underlining of their venue (no networks, their patrons would no like nor let knowledge to be anything that fabricated and sell by them Salem: teaching sole and only at uni the arguments style, your essay, that if you argue once to your company, even the uni has been transformed into one discreetheadheedheelly, redundant you ll be made I ll let you ima gin-e [e man gene] cf: Botox or lynch leech leach loch electronic for the droll men), lights all nights, for porks that don’t put their prudery pridely produced shits in the litter =bins. Summary: they took planes, hostels...just to read their papers in front of a hazardous assembly (the room was short of being empty, we were there, playing truancy, uncalled for, unprepared, not directly concerned = not working on the subject, is still fine, it is good to have, get an idea, but no one were working is here the problem of the final era.). Nothing more. Nothing more to hope or opt for. Did it count as teaching or learning this slow show of efforts? Bribery in direct, here was the headlines. As for the academics coming to talk about Gaza (or holocaust) conditions of living, applauded at the end when not cut from having trespassed their speaking time...what are they gonna say? Harried and back. If ever they depict their travel to the west, we are ensured with a worse reputation than for me gay.

Pede = pedicure, pediment, pedigree, pedologist, penologist?

Ps: folk, what do you think about the uni and its thousands of students not having at disposal even not one free of entry kitchen facilities where one could bring one’s bona fide terra cota (no costa) mugs and tea bags, the odd home-made sandwich, a sink, a kettle, a fridge where we would like the food for us to stay. (it is for creation of jobs they have only bars and cafe, who finds interesting to serve those obscene pedants while the planet is the target. Tar? Tare in French = vice. Defecting. Ask the chancellor, how he protects more human humble backgrounds.” Don’t worry guys I ll teach humility to ya.”

Even not one kettle. But kitten kittling kittling by the plice.

Ps2: for the one satisfied with the new computers, 8000 would have our perso lap tops, not asking 20 minutes to print from a computer in this university, paid. A nicer room, a good diet, no stressed by the how will I repaid this society whose main activism is not to repair but jack-the-reaper moaning while moneying. I hope for your parents they ve got the teachers’ salaries to help you not taking a loan to the same richer that will command the slayer, you would reimburse then later, or if not that your loan won’t by montage mortgages pursuing be, I hope they don’t clean, (not that cleaning or building is less of a profession but with the wages you cannot pay further, higher study (natural selection like the vice-lards called it). To get educated? To obey the inDUSTry... For the propos and the prolos , for the rabble, don’t be mad at any one, they cannot afford the housing, let alone university = schools for adults, long-live study...mature thinking prohibited. It is why human rights students are doing project for euthanasia, no further education, the freshers, the tenders will look over, see over to that, with their own sensitivity, sensibility! Rational, the human one apparently.

Ps2: everyone was again hooliganisms when protesting, after the elected mps revert on their promises and render entry to university a matter of “vic-tor-ious” circles. They don’t go in prison nor Peru (in the nick) for performing perfurming prefunding perjury perfusing, they pass orders to the new buildings to be brought down and take commission on each newest fancy as viscous as tick tip as it might be. Conclusion: national scale vandalism practise.

The uni-versity?

The per-versity.



Caught roehampton university twice lying through their teeth hugely on the build bulk of its very v-incinity,

On a so called world excellence center = endowed with 5 books even not related and no fewer leaflets of what really was left of the u.k human rights (h.r) society.

The other presenting themselves as a model of recycling when they bin every furniture at each beginning of the term, but because they got recycling bins.





To come onto human rights and duties or being the gangsters canister delivery.



why is tin that the surface of the wall students might stick their enquiries is shrinking as much as pastor’ pardon smelly smiley?



For the students that are for that being the topless of the cream; well you will have to start differentiate between a recommendation letter from you nanny and the ones of predecessors that yse to applaud and strut and now cry as they have getting at, after having wanted and plagueia-ring for gathering aggravation on every single stud sturdiness end and stubs you could put your hand on.

Turbulence.



No more space, not much, space to placard ideas, links, events not related on the relation to comfort and sense of achievement and the price of the delivered pizzas around.

To note: look at the space devoted to students bowarding they are shrinking. You could be retorted, if asking, that it is the age of electronical networks, that this is the reason why physical space (obs or because of fire and arson endangering) has been repeatedly condemned and barred as muchk as barrened. People are not expected to be willing to search for info: when you are waiting for a lecture, when you want to know in a glance what kinda alternaive native (navel of but nave all) or narrative where your body are = no having to have your computer finding the info, and you clicking the mouse one hundred times each session in order it to spot the pages from nowhere that it has to be recontextualised if ever it did not caco, eu or a-phonic clash before attaining so. Where any how, because there is no electronic forum for the uni as a whole, and even if there was internet is not an instrument yet clear and malleable and quick usable on overview thumbing and overall (not overcalled) dei desirable. Internet opening and finding spots, altogether with lay-out permitting plurality and contrasting and spontaneous, quick and simultaneous work on research and reading, as well as save and set and ready availability and data and setting. Computer use is not savvy, it transform you into a a robot repeating tasks indefinitely, speaking to no one in particular, just foreing ot what a respected wall might provide, pluralism of provenances, and the fact that underline, thumbing, glancing, sliding, bigger spaces on multiples windows, change of pens, won’t take me days, bugs, lost tasks, eluded skills, unskippable rituals, soiled provenance and fundings- we could be disallow the right to write soon mind- and hone the disappointing-absence of interaction or responses, would will read anyhow...of introspection.



How come no forum? No forum to assemble students, alumni, visitors, actors, befiends, befriends, different amicalbes, associations, pupils?, organisations,

There is no forum, therefore there is no such thing named rightly university. Schools, harem or armed wing of industries possibilities.

The don’t gather towards cluster of knowledge and formation of a more objective, global, comprehensive view on realities and the power out of viewing that would be raised to balance and weight up the sway not sla(ver)y.

Instead of being the depositary of knowledge and nexus of shared progress and unknotting unravelling different fields espousing reason by preserving human rights interest. University hide and made pay not knowledge but certificate of not new rules but fetters. It has become the locker up on latch, it has become the propaganda on hatch, the lackey and doorman of economical elites, cheap and lacking. It has become the retention of info and makes hostage of the dissipated ignorant as well as the poor, as it don’t decimate and make the illiterate expentionaltally more than twice pay for having been made serf.

Instead of being the enlightment the monopoly of it and IT, obscurantism and mal version will permit.

Purveyor of staff, university is not about knowledge but favouritism, not about research but fabrication, not about kiddo or laid diploma but faking in person.

University is no debates but commands, issues but orders, data but finances, deciding but plot contriving in order to find the next one break willing, or human rights starring development of scary scarring salaries on top of agenda, informing but ordinances of what will make the other for so less and no shift no alter, dissidences is viper to the ones aiming at a chair overlooking lives on capital sentences.





Look at the department of English, I am talking about them because regarding the other departments I had lost all my hopes for extra subject, in fact expression of the free in sense of freer, being considered already, as means of meaningful, constructive argue- what dangerous? Look ,invent a rule and if it is dangerous we will apply it to ya, and we will see if people banter and bargain over sensibility that much, forced dishonesty. Look at the English department. Super inviting lay-out. Poetry everywhere, you are invited to think imagination, creativity, ivy invitee, vital, invention is crucial. But on the walls, that them are escaped fake policy on indendy fire security (cause when you get a real danger of arson your main preoccupation should be to protect means of expression and communication) instead of blanketing, sorry corry, blanked the wall in white hi hospital stay.

Ivory towel.

Well these boards are for the directors and sulbaternes, the teachers or professors out of research academic within university capability.

You understand what happens? You enter a place where there is arty stuff everywhere, a place of education, a place for primary education furthermore (meaning you ll teach youngster all the bases; including independence of thinking and just that to create their own space, to person that are too young to know if (and how, and the cruciality of its findings) there will be one, any really...).

To finally come to the conclusion that ll all this literature are from the profs obeying a policy that say that in their own department the students will only find place on the wall designed for top to down communication and certainly not the opposite or certainly not down communeication at will at all. Like borders space are the limits of the world we can scramble upon. As blanked as veiled are the networks and their webs of cine.





When socio is just about realists.





Set the scene’ of the crimes background of at any price irrespectuous pomposity, luxury over famine, pretension over education





Not totally insane but insane yes.

I don’t know what, it is a woman I don’t understand totally.



Ps: you will have also to ask your banker to go and demonstrate

Demon, monster, money tate, state, strate. Show or illustrate.

Ask monsieur bore is will be agumentate the bus ticket by hate perscent again in the name of the Olympic game (perhaps could we be boycott all the company sponsoring the Olympic for being contribution of such d-aft policy post-second world war, where guetthoisation war-saw pheasant fashion will see the people wanting to drain their there brothers, cousins and companions.

We know now wh y this pigcop crib, crumbled us with bicycles publicity, that for sure these pants are fundamentally cover with crumpet shrumpft darf fart when he manages to do that miles away, otherwise that wen one of his anger or intervention by an audience spectacle of payed called clappers will record the venue.

Cycling road in London, in north London even more, are bumpy, just sewage, the car driver , the bus driver not educated. A true cyclist would have started police operation fining the ones not letting the bike with a required one meter of space between the automobile and the pavement or sewage hole. Just to say we ll have to do what to use common transportation?? At hteir reate of speed, and money.



Or people just tearing off sin, sign of this type because it is near their places o offices perhaps or because it could be something else than fishy scale limeyt on gener rosity.



You think, we are too much occupied, so too make short one little note could be empathise, emphasize, is that behind our doors we see comfort, the comfort of study, of a job that brings average consumption, even though the nature of what we produce and the policies that we follow had forgotten about ethical conception.

And there are the people, even if of course everyone suffer indirectedly from unfair trade, abuses, and all that poison life and beyond the city; but there is other people that suffer more directly. That more than expose to have unethical or endangering occupations, are treated like slave for the average middle classes take bath, planes and bleach. And one day human rights short of any resources and good, fair and justifiably, just able to stable organisation, will be those of retaliation or simple need of water for survival, with no laws or trials.

And even though it would be true to say it, it would not suffice to argue that ‘we never were a free people, you know it now?’.





On saving the birds, tree-rats (so called squirrels, squire????) and other pests.